In the latest Development Drums podcast, my colleague Michael Clemens explains why migration is important for development.

Michael Clemens
Michael Clemens

In a wide-ranging discussion, Michael addresses concerns about the impact on countries from which people leave (the so-called brain drain) and the impact on countries to which people come (such as possible effects on jobs, public services and social cohesion).  He also emphasizes that we should focus primarily on the effects on migrants themselves.  In the final part of the interview, Michael gives an example of how his work has led to small but important changes in US immigration policy in ways that have huge benefits for development.

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Published by Owen Barder

Owen is Senior Fellow and Director for Europe at the Center for Global Development and a Visiting Professor in Practice at the London School of Economics. Owen was a civil servant for a quarter of a century, working in Number 10, the Treasury and the Department for International Development. Owen hosts the Development Drums podcast, and is the author Running for Fitness, the book and website. Owen is on Twitter and

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