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	<title>Comments on: Pneumonia</title>
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	<description>Thoughts on development and beyond</description>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your article with particular interest, having had pneumonia a couple of years ago.  I only had a mild version, but it knocked me out for quite a while.

I hadn&#039;t really appreciated the role of GAVI here, but it does seem an effective use of aid resources - getting the incentives right to bring in the expertise and (medical) technology that is needed.

So I was then a little disappointed by your comment about those who act on the basis of science and rationality &quot;often&quot; doing do so on the basis of &quot;higher&quot; ethical standards than those with religious beliefs.  Strikes me as a massive (and rather flippant) generalisation that doesn&#039;t really  fit with the rational and logical approach you take in the rest of your blog.

&lt;em&gt;Owen replies: Pete - thanks. I don&#039;t think that people who act out of fear of punishment, or in the hope of some reward, on a future Judgement Day are acting to the same ethical standard as people who reach a judgement about the right thing without thinking that they will be subsequently rewarded for doing so.  And a substantial part of what some people believe they have been instructed to do by a religious authority - from promoting the spread of AIDS by criticising the use of condoms, oppressing women or blowing themselves and other people up - is downright harmful.  But I accept that evil acts are not restricted to religious people, any more than good ones are.

You are right that my remark was flippant, and that it is a massive generalisation. But I&#039;m unapologetic about saying that it is what I believe.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your article with particular interest, having had pneumonia a couple of years ago.  I only had a mild version, but it knocked me out for quite a while.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t really appreciated the role of GAVI here, but it does seem an effective use of aid resources &#8211; getting the incentives right to bring in the expertise and (medical) technology that is needed.</p>
<p>So I was then a little disappointed by your comment about those who act on the basis of science and rationality &#8220;often&#8221; doing do so on the basis of &#8220;higher&#8221; ethical standards than those with religious beliefs.  Strikes me as a massive (and rather flippant) generalisation that doesn&#8217;t really  fit with the rational and logical approach you take in the rest of your blog.</p>
<p><em>Owen replies: Pete &#8211; thanks. I don&#8217;t think that people who act out of fear of punishment, or in the hope of some reward, on a future Judgement Day are acting to the same ethical standard as people who reach a judgement about the right thing without thinking that they will be subsequently rewarded for doing so.  And a substantial part of what some people believe they have been instructed to do by a religious authority &#8211; from promoting the spread of AIDS by criticising the use of condoms, oppressing women or blowing themselves and other people up &#8211; is downright harmful.  But I accept that evil acts are not restricted to religious people, any more than good ones are.</p>
<p>You are right that my remark was flippant, and that it is a massive generalisation. But I&#8217;m unapologetic about saying that it is what I believe.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Global Development: Views from the Center &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yes Bill, No Owen: Why I Still Doubt Aid-Growth Regressions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Development: Views from the Center &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yes Bill, No Owen: Why I Still Doubt Aid-Growth Regressions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] admire Owen Barder for many reasons. Did you notice his modesty in blogging World Pneumonia Day while glossing over his own contribution to what appears to be a remarkable aid success, the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] admire Owen Barder for many reasons. Did you notice his modesty in blogging World Pneumonia Day while glossing over his own contribution to what appears to be a remarkable aid success, the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Atheist Missionary</title>
		<link>http://www.owen.org/blog/2664/comment-page-1#comment-4426</link>
		<dc:creator>The Atheist Missionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had never heard of the GAVI Alliance before reading your blog post.  I just donated $100 and told them that you brought their charity to my attention.  I hope that the immunization of an extra family brings as much joy to your life today as it did to mine.  Best regards and keep up the great work, TAM.

&lt;em&gt;Owen replies: I am very touched; and you have indeed brought joy to my day. I cannot speak on behalf of the family you have helped today, but somebody, somewhere owes their life to you. 

And thank you for standing up for what I firmly believe: that those of use who believe in science and rationality are also capable of high ethical standards - often higher, in my view, than those who act out of religious belief.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never heard of the GAVI Alliance before reading your blog post.  I just donated $100 and told them that you brought their charity to my attention.  I hope that the immunization of an extra family brings as much joy to your life today as it did to mine.  Best regards and keep up the great work, TAM.</p>
<p><em>Owen replies: I am very touched; and you have indeed brought joy to my day. I cannot speak on behalf of the family you have helped today, but somebody, somewhere owes their life to you. </p>
<p>And thank you for standing up for what I firmly believe: that those of use who believe in science and rationality are also capable of high ethical standards &#8211; often higher, in my view, than those who act out of religious belief.</em></p>
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